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T O P I C R E V I E WAmoranthanielaI was wondering if there's been any astrological studies or experiments in understanding if the time (or month) of our conception plays some kind of partin our astrological makeup? What about you, do you know nearabouts when you were conceived and does it mean anything to you? vansio http://shrifreedom.org/ayurveda/10605-2/ Dumuzii imagine it'd be more significant in a parent's chart than our own but i never looked at it in comparison to my ownthe only stuff i know about my conception was it happened after a miscarriage my mother had (less than a year before i was born) and that she found out she was pregnant with me around christmas and a week after my paternal grandmother died (she died december 18th) i know more about my mother's pregnancy with me because it's a weird story, all my aunts on that side were pregnant and my mother dreamt of my dead grandmother (every night) telling her everything was going to be fine, her and i were fine, and that she (grandmother) already knew mewas a difficult pregnancy, high risk, and afterwards my mother almost died from complicationsshe was the only one who had the weird dreams about things being ok, and every other aunt had a miscarriage except one whose baby died 3 days after his birth the dreams stopped when my mother had me funny to see this though and be reminded of it i just woke up from a dream where i was handed some book that belonged to her (grandmother) ChanterelleWow, that’s intense... re: the part about you having known each other before: when my oldest daughter was little she used to say things like “remember when I was the mommy and you were the baby?” And her sister around the same age talked about her great-great-grandmother all the time.Re: the original question, I’ve noticed that ‘prenatal eclipse’ is a feature you can add, but I don’t know anything about it.Dumuzi quote:Originally posted by Chanterelle:Wow, that’s intense... re: the part about you having known each other before: when my oldest daughter was little she used to say things like “remember when I was the mommy and you were the baby?” And her sister around the same age talked about her great-great-grandmother all the time.Re: the original question, I’ve noticed that ‘prenatal eclipse’ is a feature you can add, but I don’t know anything about it.that's interestingmy niece used to call my mother "pookie" instead of grandma for the longest time, she'd just refuse and laugh about it, and she told my mother "i came here for you" before too, would talk about reincarnation and such without anyone telling her it was a thingChanterelleYup, that’s how I know for sure it’s real.Dumuzi quote:Originally posted by Chanterelle:Yup, that’s how I know for sure it’s real.i used to dismiss it, but part of what led me here was some strange past life memoriesaround my 22nd birthday i had this blackout induced by pcp laced weed and a buzzing in the background of a song my ex was listening to (i had a clockwork orange style meltdown and a lot of deja vu) came out of that in the middle of the sex unsure how i got there because everything had just been like the void (don't know if you've ever done void meditation or not, but also similar to dreamless sleep if you haven't) and then i was backi was still having a bad high, still confused, and i decided to write to pass time because it was a way to see time was clearly movingi started autowriting and i wrote about how i'd meet a witch, i wrote what she'd look like where she would be from, things she would tell me and that she'd make me remember when i finished i looked at it and thought "well this looks schizophrenic as all hell" and threw it away, over the next few months i kept smoking that weed because 🤷♀️ most of the time it was good but i had other incidents of autowriting that would actually happen and a couple other weird incidents few years passed and i met a witch and she was everything i described, she said things i wrote she would and i told her as muchshe felt a connection to me, taught me how to open my 3rd eye, introduced me to astrology in a different light, and even though i specifically told her not to do it (so did her coven leader) she did a past life ritual to see why she felt that wayover the next year i was bombarded with all kinds of shared memories that would match hers (and eventually my ex's because she did a second weaker ritual at my insistence for that) that had rituals i couldn't have known about etc in them, historically accurate **** i shouldnt have known toofirst incidents with dionysus stuff were around this time as wellwhen that all went to hell i was sort of left just kind of following dream signs and flailing and eventually learned astrology when i hit a dead end feeling like i would meet peopleover the years i've met other people who have remembered me, there's something very strange about having people ***** at you over things that happened thousands of years ago but 🤷♀️ been thereso i already knew before my niece came around, but it was interesting to have more confirmation come into my life, been very lucky with that sort of thingDumuzi quote:Originally posted by vansio: http://shrifreedom.org/ayurveda/10605-2/ this is really interesting it being vedic makes it extra interesting for personal reasons, related to the dream i mentioned in this thread and some other stuff never really thought about the entire pregnancy being relevant to the natal chart, but i suppose it does make sense ChanterelleI’d never really thought about that before either... Kinda creepy to me, though, what that article was saying about some people wanting to go so far as to time a c-section for an auspicious career... I knew someone who knew she would have to do so, and was given a window of time to choose from, so I suggested the summer solstice just because...🤷🏼♀️ Dumuzi quote:Originally posted by Chanterelle:I’d never really thought about that before either... I wonder what difference it would make in the fact that I moved halfway around the world while pregnant. Kinda creepy to me, though, what that article was saying about some people wanting to go so far as to time a c-section for an auspicious career... I knew someone who knew she would have to do so, and was given a window of time to choose from, so I suggested the summer solstice just because...🤷🏼♀️ i get it if you're in a position where you have to and you choose but it does seem odd to intentionally push for that, though i imagine that sort of thing may be in the parents' charts to some degreei've heard of people trying to plan for the child's sign before, but it seems weird, that sort of thing should just be left up to fate though i guess if fate gives you a choice optimize it though the only summer solstice baby i know is a guy who's miserable about damn near everything ChanterelleSee, I said I give terrible advice... I don’t even know off the top of my head, would that be Cancer or Leo?GalacticCoreExplosion quote:Originally posted by Dumuzi: that's interestingmy niece used to call my mother "pookie" instead of grandma for the longest time, she'd just refuse and laugh about it, and she told my mother "i came here for you" before too, would talk about reincarnation and such without anyone telling her it was a thing My younger, full brother, use to tell my mom about his "other mom" and how they were real poor and he had to hunt rabbits for them. Then he also talked about how he stole this man's treasure (with a hehe), but then the man shot him. The interesting thing is, a few years or so ago, I was hiking the Colorado Trail, and I had a dream wherein I was viewing one of my brother's other lives* which apparently was in Colorado (no where near we either of us live or have ever lived in this life), and he was bit of rapscallion and got himself in trouble doing some unethical things, like stealing. I of course thought about some of the things he said as a child (but didn't remember later). *My brother is like most Souls, not a direct, literal reincarnation of a Soul that already lived another human life, but a new "Spirit mix" wherein his Spirit/Expanded/"Monadic" self combined multiple energetics, memories, patterns from multiple lives, to come up with/create his own unique Soul. (Typically an Expanded self with throw together anywhere from 3 to 9 or so lifetimes in the consciousness soup together to get the new soul). As to the part of him that relates astrologically to this rapscallion lifetime/part of himself, I suspect it relates to his pretty strong Mars energy. He has Virgo Venus and Mars cusping Leo, closely conjunct and closely conjunct his Virgo ASC (more closely cusping Leo). Maybe his Moon in Scorpio a bit as well. Most of the other lives are much more positive and service oriented, and have been positive leader/facilitator types. These seem to outweigh that one, rather selfish lifetime. Hence, he is not a Uranian wherein there is a constant struggle and internal war between the fast vibratory and slow vibratory impulses, past calling, and/or patterns. (Often results in a bi polar like temperament and attunement). (The more positive and fast vibratory lifetimes are represented by things like, Sag Neptune conjunct Sag South Node, very strong Venus [probably his strongest energy since not only is Venus a bit closer to his ASC than Mars, but he has Libra Sun and his ASC/Chart ruler Mercury is in Libra), quite strong Jupiter since it is in Sagittarius and in the 4th in close sextile to his ASC/chart ruler Mercury, etc). Yes, if one has the necessary background information and understanding, one can deconstruct and reconstruct a chart, and how it relates to other life influences and how they present in the present as unconscious "presents" to be unwrapped. ChanterelleTriple word score!(Oddly enough, I’ve got a bit of a buried treasure theme myself — pirates, bank robbers, ancient ruins, and actually going out in the woods and collecting rocks — that’s pretty much the common theme behind all my son’s interests.)GalacticCoreExplosionHaha, yes, was going purposely with a theme there. Chanterelle@Dumuzi— was a gonna say, there’s a bit of overlap there as well, in the fact that I was led to astrology by writing stuff I didn’t know I knew and new interpretations of old dreams. I almost never have dreams I remember anymore, but one that was really significant stood out because of the process of eating food... taste, texture, stuff that isn’t usually apparent in dreams, took me about a month to figure out what I’d been eating in the dream: curry made from yuca root. GalacticCoreExplosion To get back to the topic/subject, don't think it matters too much in a direct sense. However, with that said, I find the following interesting. Edgar Cayce's guidance said that Yeshua was born on what we would now call January 6th. He later let himself be murdered presumably during Aries Sun season (sometimes from latish March to mid April). Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was born under Capricorn Sun, and then was murdered for teaching/preaching/exampling Love also under Aries Sun. What's interesting about the above, is that people that are born under Capricorn, are usually first conceived under Aries Sun. So we have a full, circular cycle here from conception (Aries) to birth (Capricorn) to death (Aries). I have never seen this pointed out before, but kind of had a Eureka moment about it awhile back. I don't know if it is objectively significant, but it feels and seems significant in some kind of way. Amoranthaniela quote:Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: To get back to the topic/subject, don't think it matters too much in a direct sense. However, with that said, I find the following interesting. Edgar Cayce's guidance said that Yeshua was born on what we would now call January 6th. He later let himself be murdered presumably during Aries Sun season (sometimes from latish March to mid April). Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was born under Capricorn Sun, and then was murdered for teaching/preaching/exampling Love also under Aries Sun. What's interesting about the above, is that people that are born under Capricorn, are usually first conceived under Aries Sun. So we have a full, circular cycle here from conception (Aries) to birth (Capricorn) to death (Aries). I have never seen this pointed out before, but kind of had a Eureka moment about it awhile back. I don't know if it is objectively significant, but it feels and seems significant in some kind of way. Well that's interesting I wonder if the same is true for most other signs (death around conception time). Have you noticed it anywhere else? Other than Aries?GalacticCoreExplosion Tbh, haven't really looked. I figured these were somewhat special/unusual cases. mirage29Amoranthaniela, You might find more of what you're looking for in this article too-- Fertility and Astrology- http://www.astrologyofhealth.com/blog/46462-fertility-and-astrology Nov 6, 2020 10:35amBy Kira Sutherland'Medical Astrology'13 min read*~Vansio.. DualGemV2I didn't know much much until my sister had her first child. I only found out after my Mom was criticized for not doing more to help my sister and her pregnancy.She then said nobody ever helped her when she was carrying me and up to the point I was born, lots of struggle with perseverance. My Planets=========================================☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑ MoonMysticPls don't quote I do have a pretty accurate time of c.My mother shared with me a couple years back the night they saw a certain film at the drive end. It was opening weekend. I looked at her chart with my Dad's. Everything lined up well. I studied this a cpl years ago. A couple notes I keptThe combined Neptune in their MP was 5th. (Neptune is prominent in my chart) and it cnj exact my MC/Uranus, trines Aldebaran (0) and Cordellia 2755 "heart" .. wuth tr Jupiter hitting 5th H. It's interesting comparing my 2 charts. Neptune and Moon cnj near exact (MP) and synastry the Moon of conception lines up with my natal SN - almost as though *metaphorically*, The moon passes a packet over to the SN (my src coding) and leaves it there for reference restore point. ~ Random but one can only wonder! Amoranthaniela@MoonMystic,So what do you think all that means? quote:Originally posted by mirage29:Amoranthaniela, You might find more of what you're looking for in this article too-- [b]Fertility and Astrology- http://www.astrologyofhealth.com/blog/46462-fertility-and-astrology Nov 6, 2020 10:35amBy Kira Sutherland'Medical Astrology'13 min read*~Vansio.. [/B]Hmm, yes, that is interesting! Thank you!!MoonMystic Amoranthaniela, After reviewing (Mercury rx - repeating, returning) the charts of them in synastry and midpoint with transits, once more .. I see so much that shines lights on the conception. Moment of fertilization. The buddling begins There! ... my parents didn't mean to conceive. Yet as many say not to have "unsafe sex when not wanting children, Jupiter in tr was in their Together 5th. As well I studied many other energies, they reflect in their (combined) 5th ~ my name, city name they met at, some 0ersonal others and a couple fertility names. Out of 12 houses, I thought that was interesting. Each person would need to discover and study their own ~ I suppose.
What about you, do you know nearabouts when you were conceived and does it mean anything to you?
the only stuff i know about my conception was it happened after a miscarriage my mother had (less than a year before i was born) and that she found out she was pregnant with me around christmas and a week after my paternal grandmother died (she died december 18th)
i know more about my mother's pregnancy with me because it's a weird story, all my aunts on that side were pregnant and my mother dreamt of my dead grandmother (every night) telling her everything was going to be fine, her and i were fine, and that she (grandmother) already knew me
was a difficult pregnancy, high risk, and afterwards my mother almost died from complications
she was the only one who had the weird dreams about things being ok, and every other aunt had a miscarriage except one whose baby died 3 days after his birth
the dreams stopped when my mother had me
funny to see this though and be reminded of it i just woke up from a dream where i was handed some book that belonged to her (grandmother)
Re: the original question, I’ve noticed that ‘prenatal eclipse’ is a feature you can add, but I don’t know anything about it.
quote:Originally posted by Chanterelle:Wow, that’s intense... re: the part about you having known each other before: when my oldest daughter was little she used to say things like “remember when I was the mommy and you were the baby?” And her sister around the same age talked about her great-great-grandmother all the time.Re: the original question, I’ve noticed that ‘prenatal eclipse’ is a feature you can add, but I don’t know anything about it.
that's interesting
my niece used to call my mother "pookie" instead of grandma for the longest time, she'd just refuse and laugh about it, and she told my mother "i came here for you" before too, would talk about reincarnation and such without anyone telling her it was a thing
quote:Originally posted by Chanterelle:Yup, that’s how I know for sure it’s real.
i used to dismiss it, but part of what led me here was some strange past life memories
around my 22nd birthday i had this blackout induced by pcp laced weed and a buzzing in the background of a song my ex was listening to (i had a clockwork orange style meltdown and a lot of deja vu)
came out of that in the middle of the sex unsure how i got there because everything had just been like the void (don't know if you've ever done void meditation or not, but also similar to dreamless sleep if you haven't) and then i was back
i was still having a bad high, still confused, and i decided to write to pass time because it was a way to see time was clearly moving
i started autowriting and i wrote about how i'd meet a witch, i wrote what she'd look like where she would be from, things she would tell me and that she'd make me remember
when i finished i looked at it and thought "well this looks schizophrenic as all hell" and threw it away, over the next few months i kept smoking that weed because 🤷♀️ most of the time it was good but i had other incidents of autowriting that would actually happen and a couple other weird incidents
few years passed and i met a witch and she was everything i described, she said things i wrote she would and i told her as much
she felt a connection to me, taught me how to open my 3rd eye, introduced me to astrology in a different light, and even though i specifically told her not to do it (so did her coven leader) she did a past life ritual to see why she felt that way
over the next year i was bombarded with all kinds of shared memories that would match hers (and eventually my ex's because she did a second weaker ritual at my insistence for that) that had rituals i couldn't have known about etc in them, historically accurate **** i shouldnt have known too
first incidents with dionysus stuff were around this time as well
when that all went to hell i was sort of left just kind of following dream signs and flailing and eventually learned astrology when i hit a dead end feeling like i would meet people
over the years i've met other people who have remembered me, there's something very strange about having people ***** at you over things that happened thousands of years ago but 🤷♀️ been there
so i already knew before my niece came around, but it was interesting to have more confirmation come into my life, been very lucky with that sort of thing
quote:Originally posted by vansio: http://shrifreedom.org/ayurveda/10605-2/
this is really interesting it being vedic makes it extra interesting for personal reasons, related to the dream i mentioned in this thread and some other stuff
never really thought about the entire pregnancy being relevant to the natal chart, but i suppose it does make sense
quote:Originally posted by Chanterelle:I’d never really thought about that before either... I wonder what difference it would make in the fact that I moved halfway around the world while pregnant. Kinda creepy to me, though, what that article was saying about some people wanting to go so far as to time a c-section for an auspicious career... I knew someone who knew she would have to do so, and was given a window of time to choose from, so I suggested the summer solstice just because...🤷🏼♀️
i get it if you're in a position where you have to and you choose but it does seem odd to intentionally push for that, though i imagine that sort of thing may be in the parents' charts to some degree
i've heard of people trying to plan for the child's sign before, but it seems weird, that sort of thing should just be left up to fate though i guess if fate gives you a choice optimize it though
the only summer solstice baby i know is a guy who's miserable about damn near everything
quote:Originally posted by Dumuzi: that's interestingmy niece used to call my mother "pookie" instead of grandma for the longest time, she'd just refuse and laugh about it, and she told my mother "i came here for you" before too, would talk about reincarnation and such without anyone telling her it was a thing
My younger, full brother, use to tell my mom about his "other mom" and how they were real poor and he had to hunt rabbits for them.
Then he also talked about how he stole this man's treasure (with a hehe), but then the man shot him.
The interesting thing is, a few years or so ago, I was hiking the Colorado Trail, and I had a dream wherein I was viewing one of my brother's other lives* which apparently was in Colorado (no where near we either of us live or have ever lived in this life), and he was bit of rapscallion and got himself in trouble doing some unethical things, like stealing.
I of course thought about some of the things he said as a child (but didn't remember later).
*My brother is like most Souls, not a direct, literal reincarnation of a Soul that already lived another human life, but a new "Spirit mix" wherein his Spirit/Expanded/"Monadic" self combined multiple energetics, memories, patterns from multiple lives, to come up with/create his own unique Soul. (Typically an Expanded self with throw together anywhere from 3 to 9 or so lifetimes in the consciousness soup together to get the new soul).
As to the part of him that relates astrologically to this rapscallion lifetime/part of himself, I suspect it relates to his pretty strong Mars energy. He has Virgo Venus and Mars cusping Leo, closely conjunct and closely conjunct his Virgo ASC (more closely cusping Leo). Maybe his Moon in Scorpio a bit as well.
Most of the other lives are much more positive and service oriented, and have been positive leader/facilitator types. These seem to outweigh that one, rather selfish lifetime. Hence, he is not a Uranian wherein there is a constant struggle and internal war between the fast vibratory and slow vibratory impulses, past calling, and/or patterns. (Often results in a bi polar like temperament and attunement).
(The more positive and fast vibratory lifetimes are represented by things like, Sag Neptune conjunct Sag South Node, very strong Venus [probably his strongest energy since not only is Venus a bit closer to his ASC than Mars, but he has Libra Sun and his ASC/Chart ruler Mercury is in Libra), quite strong Jupiter since it is in Sagittarius and in the 4th in close sextile to his ASC/chart ruler Mercury, etc).
Yes, if one has the necessary background information and understanding, one can deconstruct and reconstruct a chart, and how it relates to other life influences and how they present in the present as unconscious "presents" to be unwrapped.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was born under Capricorn Sun, and then was murdered for teaching/preaching/exampling Love also under Aries Sun.
What's interesting about the above, is that people that are born under Capricorn, are usually first conceived under Aries Sun. So we have a full, circular cycle here from conception (Aries) to birth (Capricorn) to death (Aries).
I have never seen this pointed out before, but kind of had a Eureka moment about it awhile back. I don't know if it is objectively significant, but it feels and seems significant in some kind of way.
quote:Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: To get back to the topic/subject, don't think it matters too much in a direct sense. However, with that said, I find the following interesting. Edgar Cayce's guidance said that Yeshua was born on what we would now call January 6th. He later let himself be murdered presumably during Aries Sun season (sometimes from latish March to mid April). Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was born under Capricorn Sun, and then was murdered for teaching/preaching/exampling Love also under Aries Sun. What's interesting about the above, is that people that are born under Capricorn, are usually first conceived under Aries Sun. So we have a full, circular cycle here from conception (Aries) to birth (Capricorn) to death (Aries). I have never seen this pointed out before, but kind of had a Eureka moment about it awhile back. I don't know if it is objectively significant, but it feels and seems significant in some kind of way.
Well that's interesting I wonder if the same is true for most other signs (death around conception time). Have you noticed it anywhere else? Other than Aries?
Fertility and Astrology- http://www.astrologyofhealth.com/blog/46462-fertility-and-astrology
Nov 6, 2020 10:35amBy Kira Sutherland'Medical Astrology'13 min read
*~Vansio..
I only found out after my Mom was criticized for not doing more to help my sister and her pregnancy.
She then said nobody ever helped her when she was carrying me and up to the point I was born, lots of struggle with perseverance.
My Planets=========================================☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ¡÷ ♉, ¡ö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑
I looked at her chart with my Dad's. Everything lined up well. I studied this a cpl years ago. A couple notes I keptThe combined Neptune in their MP was 5th. (Neptune is prominent in my chart) and it cnj exact my MC/Uranus, trines Aldebaran (0) and Cordellia 2755 "heart" .. wuth tr Jupiter hitting 5th H.
It's interesting comparing my 2 charts. Neptune and Moon cnj near exact (MP) and synastry the Moon of conception lines up with my natal SN - almost as though *metaphorically*, The moon passes a packet over to the SN (my src coding) and leaves it there for reference restore point.
~ Random but one can only wonder!
So what do you think all that means?
quote:Originally posted by mirage29:Amoranthaniela, You might find more of what you're looking for in this article too-- [b]Fertility and Astrology- http://www.astrologyofhealth.com/blog/46462-fertility-and-astrology Nov 6, 2020 10:35amBy Kira Sutherland'Medical Astrology'13 min read*~Vansio.. [/B]
[b]Fertility and Astrology- http://www.astrologyofhealth.com/blog/46462-fertility-and-astrology
*~Vansio.. [/B]
Hmm, yes, that is interesting! Thank you!!
After reviewing (Mercury rx - repeating, returning) the charts of them in synastry and midpoint with transits, once more .. I see so much that shines lights on the conception. Moment of fertilization. The buddling begins There! ... my parents didn't mean to conceive. Yet as many say not to have "unsafe sex when not wanting children, Jupiter in tr was in their Together 5th. As well I studied many other energies, they reflect in their (combined) 5th ~ my name, city name they met at, some 0ersonal others and a couple fertility names. Out of 12 houses, I thought that was interesting. Each person would need to discover and study their own ~ I suppose.
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